Carins were installed by SGWA along the trail coming from the Summit towards the Vivian Creek trail. So many people had used “trace trails” “short cuts” etc that the actual trail became unclear. Two hikers on different days were lost – SAR found them in the Raywood Flats area. .
Its confusing for most hikers to find Carins that off trail hikers have used. Most don’t have a map, they are not familiar with the area and they get confused/lost. You all seem like seasoned hikers but many aren’t – would be very considerate not to make trails off main trails so visitors are able to find their way down.