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    • #2689
      sudha
      Participant

      Can people who went up this past weekend please post trip reports? Or links to them that have been posted elsewhere? I’m particularly interested in South Fork and Momyer.

       

      PS. Are trip reports not encouraged in the new forum? I’ve seen little or none since we’ve moved.

    • #2690
      TvZ
      Participant

      You may or may not find this relevant but, I took Devil’s Slide Trail up to Saddle Junction in the San Jacinto Wilderness and then up the PCT to about 9000′ to camp on Sat. Trail ice started at about 7000′; ankle to knee deep (unconsolidated) snow out of Saddle Junction which is at about 8000′. Perfect gear would have been microspikes and snowshoes, poles. As I had not brought snowshoes I did not attempt to summit.  I saw many folks including a boys scout troop and their dad’s in precarious positions on icey trail with no traction devices. San Gorgonio may warrant crampons and ax depending on the route you choose.

       

    • #2691
      Ed
      Participant

      I went up Saturday 12/8/18.  Started approx.  6:30am right behind two that planned to go to Jepson.  There was a skin track from two splitboarders that overnighted in the SouthFork Meadow area below Charlton.  Snow was hike able, but the two in front of me went to their snowshoes and at poop out hill, I skinned into SF Meadow.  From there I chose to climb towards Dollar Saddle (9200′ or so) to ski the N-NE face in the trees just below the large rock outcroppings on Charlton,  mistake, broke trail the entire way till I was close to the dollar lake trail cutoff, getting late called it quits skied down the N treed face and picked up others tracks avoiding having to cross the meadow and stream to make the far side Dry Lake trail, made it back to SF Trail Head parking at dark.  Snow in the trees N facing slopes was dry and nice, the NE facing slope up by dollar lake area was a bit wet and heavy due to sun, not crust so turns were makeable.  For hiking / snowshoe, both trails were good and would have been enjoyable.  Going cross-country say towards Xmas Tree hill was not easy.  The couple before me attempted, but were into knee or deeper snow even with snowshoes.  Sunday a group of Splitboarders headed out and reported, took the SF trail to Dry Lake drainage, then summer trail to the base of San G chutes, from there they made switchback skin trail up the face and topped out at approx. 11,000′. They reported dry powder snowboarding down, then lots of log, brush, and creek crossings to make it back out.  Over all good start to the winter, but this week will be warm.  I plan if no changes to take Dry Fork trail Saturday 12/15/18 then hug toe of slope in the meadow to avoid creek, then Xmas Tree hill and up and over the bench into the belly of Jepson, work my way up the right or left shoulder and ski out from there.  Depends on conditions.  Note; others observed the results of two small slides in Charlton 12/8/18, small but both had long runout.  Additionally, I skied all the way down thru horse meadow, to about three switchbacks from the parking.  The area where the trial has the larger rock water bars (area was boney with bush and rocks).  Hope this helps, but I assume with the temps this week we will have thaw-refreeze and heading out early you could have nice firm foot holes and no post-holing if you stay on trail till SF meadow or so.

    • #2692
      Ed
      Participant

      I posted report, but looks like it did not make it. Sorry if double posting.
      I went up Saturday 12/8/18. Started approx. 6:30am right behind two that planned to go to Jepson. There was a skin track from two splitboarders that overnighted in the SouthFork Meadow area below Charlton. Snow was hike able, but the two in front of me went to their snowshoes and at poop out hill, I skinned into SF Meadow. From there I chose to climb towards Dollar Saddle to ski the N-NE face in the trees just below the large rock outcroppings on Charlton, mistake, broke trail the entire way till I was close to the dollar lake trail cutoff, getting late called it quits skied down the N treed face and picked up others tracks avoiding having to cross the meadow and stream to make the far side Dry Lake trail, made it back to SF Trail Head parking at dark. Snow in the trees N facing slopes was dry and nice, the NE facing slope up by dollar lake area was a bit wet and heavy due to sun, not crust so turns were makeable. For hiking / snowshoe, both trails were good and would have been enjoyable. Going cross-country say towards Xmas Tree hill was not easy. The couple before me attempted, but were into knee or deeper snow even with snowshoes. Sunday a group of Splitboarders headed out and reported, took the SF trail to Dry Lake drainage, then summer trail to the base of San G chutes, from there they made switchback skin trail up the face and topped out at approx. 11,000. They reported dry powder snowboarding down, then lots of log, brush, and creek crossings to make it back out. Over all good start to the winter, but this week will be warm. I plan if no changes to take Dry Fork trail Saturday 12/15/18 then hug toe of slope in the meadow to avoid creek, then Xmas Tree hill and up and over the bench into the belly of Jepson, work my way up the right or left shoulder and ski out from there. Depends on conditions. Note; others observed the results of two small slides in Charlton 12/8/18, small but both had long runout. Additionally, I skied all the way down thru horse meadow, to about three switchbacks from the parking. The area where the trial has the larger rock water bars (area was boney with bush and rocks). Hope this helps

    • #2694
      shawnsisler
      Participant

      Saturday 12/08/2018 Vivian Creek Camp Junction:

       

      Saturday 12/08/2018 Halfway Camp Junction:

    • #2695
      sudha
      Participant

      Thank you so much! This is exactly what I wanted to know. I really appreciate it!

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